Jesus said something along the lines of--- if your eye offends you [if what you see offends you], pluck out your eye....
I have never met a one eyed christian, but I have met some pretty offended ones.
the dreamer dreaming
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a recent random thought....
by the dreamer dreaming in.
jesus said something along the lines of--- if your eye offends you [if what you see offends you], pluck out your eye..... i have never met a one eyed christian, but i have met some pretty offended ones.
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Questioning Apostates
by The wanderer inquestioning apostates
i recently read a post in which a man who was married for 27 years was on .
the verge of a divorce from his wife because she claims he is an apostate.. the apostasy was because he showed her the history of the watchtower.
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the dreamer dreaming
I dont think it is brainwashing but a form of hypnosis which causes one to ignore things they are told not to see... you see it alright, but your mind does a song and dance and tells you to ignore it and you move on to the next thing without remembering what it was you just saw.... in the mind of most of us things that bother us echo over and over again until we resolve them... to the hypnotized they are just filed and buried under do not open boxes....
I saw this first hand when, while recounting all our JW doubts, post exodus, my now ex wife had a sudden memory surface of an elder trying to molest her.
when she broke free of his grip and left the house, she told her self that THAT DID NOT HAPPEN as she had just expeirenced it and buried it and never ever looked at it again until the moment we found it.... and then she became enraged and vengeful and desirous of retribution... she spoke to her dad, a fallen elder but still connected and got this elder to step down... but before she could get her revenge or at least an apology, this very old one died.
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Can we be honest?
by seahart inok, seriously people, can anyone here say they honestly enjoy las vegas?
what an utterly depressing place.
my wife and i went there for a "wedding".
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the dreamer dreaming
I have been to vegas 10 times in the last 10 years, I love it...
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Red flags
by beautifulisfree inwhen i was an active witness i never understood why there were 'annointed' women that would be ruling right beside god and helping rule over the whole earth.
but, they were not allowed or good enough to be 'elders' and just rule over a tiny little congregation.
i know now this should have been a red flag for me...but, i just thought oh well this scripture says that men are to be the head of woman.
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the dreamer dreaming
red flags...
spirit lead, but not inspired
no soul nor spirit nor anything surviving death, yet being asleep
if you die today without knowing the JW spiel you will be raised to hear it in the 1000 year reich...er...reign
but if you hear it and devout your life to preaching it you could still not be found worthy and die in arm and hammer.
no independant thinking [=no thinking = blind obediance]
3 elders telling me --- I would NEVER think to question the society [when asked how they would handle a situation when they found their belief at odds with the societies]
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First encounter with a Scientologist
by glitter ini was on a mad-dash daytrip to edinburgh today, and in the morning we were up on the royal mile.
being the fringe we quickly attracted about eight trees' worth of advertising.
most of the people flyering were dressed in costumes or in t-shirts advertising the shows, but some were in ordinary clothes.
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when I first lived here in florida, between 1986-89, I drove taxi in tampa bay and ferried not a few scientologists over to the HQ in clearwater.... all of the ones I met were extremely nice and conversational people... seekers being lead down the royal path to plunder... as JWs had done for me and many here.
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The plain facts about ANY religion
by sinis inlately, i have even been questioning my beliefs in christ.
lets face it the ransom just does not make sense.
regardless of this, religion is soley a chronological and geographical entity.
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the dreamer dreaming
knowing in advance that a handfull of people could be saved to kiss his almighty arse, the grand god of the universe decided that all the misery and suffering was worth it and called forth the universe from the void.
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Discussion with friend
by sinis inso, my friend from texas was visiting this past week.
he still goes to the kh and is a ms. so he wanted to know why i have not gone to meetings.
i tell him that i am upset about the ngo thing (explained in detail).
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the dreamer dreaming
there is a documentary called THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES which explains that governments attempt to control the masses by either promising them ideal fantasy worlds, which most don't fall for any more...or by scarring them into submission by use of nightmarish scenarios like world wide terror which could strike anyone anywhere at anytime.
the leaders use this power to deny to the masses what they retain for themselves...the freedom to do as they desire.
honest people are aware of their ignorance and their inability to decide what is best for them and their community which leaves them anxious, stressed and not a bit fearful... CONfident MEN appeal to them because they SEEM to know what they are doing and where they are headed... they allow the shepherds to lead them right into the slaughter.
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Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??
by lowden ininspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.
they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.
he's just got 40yrs in jail.
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we discover something attract us and make us want more, some things repell us and make us flee and many things fall somewhere inbetween... cataloguing them as good and evil or bad, etc is fairly arbitrary and totally subjective... example many like beer, but few liked it when they first tasted it.
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Moving on...
by Zico ini've been reading this board regularly since it was introduced to me in march of this year.
at first, i was finding it pretty difficult coming to terms with the fact that my whole life had been a lie, but really, i suppose there's not much point in worrying about this now, what's done is done, and i'm still easily young enough to make a life in 'the world' despite a slow start.
the problem is that i have no idea how to go about.
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the dreamer dreaming
knowledge is power, there is no necessity of letting them know what you know
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Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??
by lowden ininspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.
they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.
he's just got 40yrs in jail.
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the dreamer dreaming
see my post in suffering...as to good and evil...however consider, if you could ONLY experience pain after you experienced pleasure and pleasure only after you have experienced pain, when could you actually experience either?
there is a null state of experiences, nothingness and pain and pleasure are not opposites from this state, but two very different experiences that need have no connection to each other.
its like saying you have to experience chocolate to experience vanilla